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031: Reshma Saujani — Teaching Our Girls to Be Brave, Not Perfect

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In 2019, women earn .79 cents for every dollar a man makes. Though we can attribute the gender pay gap to several factors including occupational segregation, bias against working mothers, and circumstances like racial bias, disability, and access to education, there’s no denying numbers and that we still have a lot of work to do to create an even playing field.

On today’s episode, I am thrilled to have a woman and mother who has been an advocate for closing the gender gap throughout her career.

Reshma Saujani is the Founder and CEO of Girls Who Code, the international nonprofit organization working to close the gender gap in tech and change the image of what a computer programmer looks like and does. It has reached 185,000 girls in all 50 states, Canada, and the UK. In 2019, Girls Who Code was awarded Most Innovative Non-Profit by Fast Company.

Reshma is the author of the international bestseller Brave, Not Perfect and has a podcast with the same name and the New York Times bestseller Girls Who Code: Learn to Code and Change the World. Reshma’s TED talk, “Teach girls, bravery not perfection,” has more than four million views and has sparked a worldwide conversation about how we’re raising our girls.

She began her career as an attorney and activist. In 2010, she surged onto the political scene as the first Indian American woman to run for U.S. Congress. During the race, she visited local schools and saw the gender gap in computing classes firsthand, which led her to start Girls Who Code.

She is a graduate of the University of Illinois, Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government, and Yale Law. Her work on behalf of young women has earned her broad recognition on lists including: Fortune World’s Greatest Leaders; Fortune 40 Under 40; WSJ Magazine Innovator of the Year; Forbes Most Powerful Women Changing the World; and Fast Company 100 Most Creative People, among others.

She lives in New York City with her husband, Nihal, their son, Shaan, and bulldog, Stanley.

Meet My Guest:


Show Notes:

  • 01:51: Introduction
  • 04:03: How Reshma and Kanika met 
  • 05:10: Background
  • 07:10: Changing your given name
  • 10:00: Using your life in the service of others
  • 12:30: Rejection, failure and recovery
  • 15:55: Women in technology
  • 20:20: Girls are change makers
  • 22:40: Learning to code
  • 27:55: Allowing boys to be vulnerable and emotional
  • 30:00: Pregnancy and APS
  • 39:40: Learning how to prioritize you
  • 40:50: Mom Sense moment
  • 41:11: Quote of the day: “Brave, not perfect”
  • 41:46: Mom Haul

Mom Haul:

006: Taraneh Shirazian, M.D. — What to Expect When You’re Done Expecting

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When I found I was pregnant, the first thing my sister in law gave me was the book – What To Expect When You’re Expecting. Since the early 80s, it’s been the bible of a mother-to-be’s pregnancy journey. And now we have apps like The Bump, Ovia, Sprout, WebMD Pregnancy, and more that walk us through each trimester week by week illustrating how our baby goes from being the size of a blueberry to a watermelon.

But what happens next? How come we aren’t as informed about what happens during postpartum? I personally asked my OBGYN a bajillion questions and she was a fellow twin mom so had a lot of advice relevant to my situation. During my hospital stay after my c-section, I must have befriended at least 6 RNs who were taking care of me during various shifts and they were all very helpful and chatty and didn’t hesitate to give me their 2 cents. And of course, I was searching every topic under the sun on Google and YouTube from from — how long does it take to recover from a c-section to when will my milk come in.

On this episode, we’re going to do a crash course on what to expect after you have your baby or  babies and how to feel mentally prepared with all the things that happen after pregnancy – essentially, what to expect to expect when you’re done expecting.

My guest on this episode is intrepid mother of two, Dr. Taraneh Shirazian, Dr. Tara for short. She’s an ob/gyn, practicing gynecologic surgeon and an Assistant Professor at NYU Langone Medical Center in New York City. Tara is recognized as an international leader in global women’s health and a frequently cited expert in this field. She is also an accomplished researcher focused on interventions designed to decrease maternal morbidity and mortality, with work published in prominent medical journals such  as the American Journal of Perinatology and ACOG Today. She launched a company called Mommy Matters because a simple truth: women everywhere find it hard to focus on their own comfort and recovery during pregnancy and after childbirth. Mom takes care of everyone else, but who takes care of mom? Mommy Matters has products including a pregnancy pillow and postpartum kit.

Dr. Shirazian is also the founder of Saving Mothers, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization dedicated to eradicating preventable maternal deaths and birth-related complications in low-resource settings. Saving Mothers believes no woman should die giving life.

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About My Guest:

Show Notes:

  • 4:30 – What happens to the body during pregnancy
  • 10:00 – Symptoms we face during pregnancy – morning sickness, hemorrhoids, and more!
  • 12:45 – What is the best labor scenario?
  • 17:00 – Breach presentation babies and unforeseen circumstances during labor
  • 18:56 – Natural vs. cesarian labor
  • 23:00 – Epidural and its effects
  • 27:15 – What to know about having a c-section
  • 30:40 – Emotional and physical side effects during postpartum
  • 33:00 – Breastfeeding and lactation consultants
  • 33:50 – What happens during recovery
  • 42:00 – Dr. Shirazian’s Mom Sense moment